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		<title>By: Teo</title>
		<link>http://www.stuartsantiago.com/of-intellectual-doldrums-filipino-voices/#comment-4530</link>
		<dc:creator>Teo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 07:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Naku. Kung anuman, sana&#039;y manatiling buhay ang blog na ito, na naging isang sentro na ng chikahan ng mga bloggers na may iba&#039;t ibang kakayahan. Hehe. Fan mode.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Naku. Kung anuman, sana&#8217;y manatiling buhay ang blog na ito, na naging isang sentro na ng chikahan ng mga bloggers na may iba&#8217;t ibang kakayahan. Hehe. Fan mode.</p>
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		<title>By: angela</title>
		<link>http://www.stuartsantiago.com/of-intellectual-doldrums-filipino-voices/#comment-4518</link>
		<dc:creator>angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 17:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nick invited me to join fv some months ago and i thanked him but declined because i have only so much time and mind for blogging. solipsism?  quite the opposite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nick invited me to join fv some months ago and i thanked him but declined because i have only so much time and mind for blogging. solipsism?  quite the opposite.</p>
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		<title>By: DJB Rizalist</title>
		<link>http://www.stuartsantiago.com/of-intellectual-doldrums-filipino-voices/#comment-4517</link>
		<dc:creator>DJB Rizalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like some of Ricky de Ungria&#039;s poetry, but I think some of what you quoted borders on the solipsism that so infects the Left with an arrogant self-loathing, for example:

&quot;. . . . If, as with the fate of colonized countries, the colonial language remains the main means of intellectual discourse and knowledge creation, …in our particular case there still appears to be no decent intellectual discourse and knowledge creation in English, or our version of it, even in Manila, and still lesser, though emergent (the word “inchoate” came to mind) discourse has come about in Filipino. . . .”

What could be more &quot;inchoate&quot; (and unconscious) than to criticize the inability to create &quot;decent intellectual discourse&quot;  using  &quot;the colonial language&quot; whilst using the colonial language to do it?

Personally, I am proud to be connected to Filipino Voices, where you never know how your writing will be received, or, and this is more important, whether it will matter to the readers. 

Unless you yourself are willing to take that risk, you risk falling into solipsism.  When you think you are ready and that your ideas can infect others from sheer merit, coherence, persuasiveness, then you will be ready to join Filipino Voices. 

What I think we fail to see is that the topology of this medium ensures that &quot;No Blog Is An Island&quot; (not even MLQ3) though some seem fervently to wish it. 

It is the unmitigated desire of many Filipinos to be unique. When we get over that, then paradoxically we will be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like some of Ricky de Ungria&#8217;s poetry, but I think some of what you quoted borders on the solipsism that so infects the Left with an arrogant self-loathing, for example:</p>
<p>&#8220;. . . . If, as with the fate of colonized countries, the colonial language remains the main means of intellectual discourse and knowledge creation, …in our particular case there still appears to be no decent intellectual discourse and knowledge creation in English, or our version of it, even in Manila, and still lesser, though emergent (the word “inchoate” came to mind) discourse has come about in Filipino. . . .”</p>
<p>What could be more &#8220;inchoate&#8221; (and unconscious) than to criticize the inability to create &#8220;decent intellectual discourse&#8221;  using  &#8220;the colonial language&#8221; whilst using the colonial language to do it?</p>
<p>Personally, I am proud to be connected to Filipino Voices, where you never know how your writing will be received, or, and this is more important, whether it will matter to the readers. </p>
<p>Unless you yourself are willing to take that risk, you risk falling into solipsism.  When you think you are ready and that your ideas can infect others from sheer merit, coherence, persuasiveness, then you will be ready to join Filipino Voices. </p>
<p>What I think we fail to see is that the topology of this medium ensures that &#8220;No Blog Is An Island&#8221; (not even MLQ3) though some seem fervently to wish it. </p>
<p>It is the unmitigated desire of many Filipinos to be unique. When we get over that, then paradoxically we will be.</p>
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		<title>By: angela</title>
		<link>http://www.stuartsantiago.com/of-intellectual-doldrums-filipino-voices/#comment-4514</link>
		<dc:creator>angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>over at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.filipinovoices.com/swimming-against-the-current-of-pinoy-nature#comments&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;filipino voices&lt;/a&gt; some have, like nick (September 26, 2008 @ 9:06 pm), tagged me as &quot;defeatist&quot;, even &quot;defeated,&quot; for advising nick to  &quot;scrap the manifesto...&quot; lol. that&#039;s what i get for trying to be nice. i thought i was letting nick off easy.  for the record, &quot;scrap the manifesto...&quot; (September 26, 2008 @ 12:27 pm) was my response to his admission that he&#039;s &quot;a kindergarten student masquerading as an intellectual&quot; (September 24, 2008 @ 9:40 pm). my way of saying, kung ganoon, huwag na lang mag-ilusyon, hindi mo (pa) kaya, be happy with what you&#039;ve achieved, masaya naman as is.  hey, i was/am just being realistic.  leading a collective like filipino voices up a mountain of lofty goals, and sustaining the movement, requires nothing less than intellectual grounding and maturity and perspicacity. now if it were &lt;a href=&quot;http://philippinecommentary.blogspot.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;djb&lt;/a&gt;, well, that would be another matter. that would be really interesting, even exciting -- that is, of course, if he can manage to be objective about the left. hope springs eternal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>over at <a href="http://www.filipinovoices.com/swimming-against-the-current-of-pinoy-nature#comments" rel="nofollow">filipino voices</a> some have, like nick (September 26, 2008 @ 9:06 pm), tagged me as &#8220;defeatist&#8221;, even &#8220;defeated,&#8221; for advising nick to  &#8220;scrap the manifesto&#8230;&#8221; lol. that&#8217;s what i get for trying to be nice. i thought i was letting nick off easy.  for the record, &#8220;scrap the manifesto&#8230;&#8221; (September 26, 2008 @ 12:27 pm) was my response to his admission that he&#8217;s &#8220;a kindergarten student masquerading as an intellectual&#8221; (September 24, 2008 @ 9:40 pm). my way of saying, kung ganoon, huwag na lang mag-ilusyon, hindi mo (pa) kaya, be happy with what you&#8217;ve achieved, masaya naman as is.  hey, i was/am just being realistic.  leading a collective like filipino voices up a mountain of lofty goals, and sustaining the movement, requires nothing less than intellectual grounding and maturity and perspicacity. now if it were <a href="http://philippinecommentary.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">djb</a>, well, that would be another matter. that would be really interesting, even exciting &#8212; that is, of course, if he can manage to be objective about the left. hope springs eternal.</p>
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		<title>By: Swimming against the current of Pinoy nature &#124; Filipino Voices</title>
		<link>http://www.stuartsantiago.com/of-intellectual-doldrums-filipino-voices/#comment-4511</link>
		<dc:creator>Swimming against the current of Pinoy nature &#124; Filipino Voices</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 06:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] had quite a lot to say about Nick&#8217;s attempt to come up with a manifesto for Filipino Voices. The bottom line of all [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] had quite a lot to say about Nick&#8217;s attempt to come up with a manifesto for Filipino Voices. The bottom line of all [...]</p>
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		<title>By: angela</title>
		<link>http://www.stuartsantiago.com/of-intellectual-doldrums-filipino-voices/#comment-4442</link>
		<dc:creator>angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 14:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good luck ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good luck ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://www.stuartsantiago.com/of-intellectual-doldrums-filipino-voices/#comment-4439</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angela, this is the most defeatist statement I&#039;ve heard in a while.

Strive to make a difference or cease altogether and be happy with the status quo, with stagnation, because people say and think one cannot?

You point out obstacles as if they are bound by the laws of physics...

In any case, your criticism is noted.  I do not agree.  Except only with the suggestion made by Teo.

Scrap the manifesto?  I say improve on it..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angela, this is the most defeatist statement I&#8217;ve heard in a while.</p>
<p>Strive to make a difference or cease altogether and be happy with the status quo, with stagnation, because people say and think one cannot?</p>
<p>You point out obstacles as if they are bound by the laws of physics&#8230;</p>
<p>In any case, your criticism is noted.  I do not agree.  Except only with the suggestion made by Teo.</p>
<p>Scrap the manifesto?  I say improve on it..</p>
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